Cum Town | Regular | 09/01/2016
[00:00:53] Welcome to from the top of the world trade.
[00:00:57] For the top of the Empire State Center.
[00:01:01] For the top of the World Trade Center, this is the Puerto Rican Ralesnake Come Town podcast.
[00:01:09] Opie's studio is at the top of tower one.
[00:01:12] And Anthony's studio is top of tower two.
[00:01:27] So we have a guest, but we don't have a mic for the guests.
[00:01:32] There's like a wireless mic here that I thought didn't work and we're just going to give
[00:01:38] Tell him it was God, that would have been so good.
[00:01:40] Yeah, but then Adam tried to use it and then it broadcasts over stuff's office and stuff
[00:01:48] I said it's purposefully cautious that we don't get thrown out of here.
[00:01:52] We lose our fucking access to Ritz crackers and fucking pop tarts.
[00:02:03] I just had a really nice strawberry pop tart.
[00:02:15] I'm going to have to just take off the mic.
[00:02:37] We were working on a sketch and then we were eating snacks so long here that bled into
[00:02:44] Nick is going to say probably horrible shit about rape.
[00:02:48] So we felt like we needed to have a woman.
[00:02:51] Nick, Nick felt like no one can hear you right now.
[00:03:00] Um, basically, uh, stop and I are not whatever Nick says.
[00:03:11] It feels like you really want to talk about stuff, Nick.
[00:03:14] No, I don't really want to talk about it.
[00:03:19] We lose probably about 10% of our audience every week.
[00:03:28] Less and less people listen to the podcast.
[00:03:35] So like a bunch of people have messaging me and they try to listen to it and it's just
[00:03:38] I thought it was because of the racism that it was taken down.
[00:03:45] I mean, you asked Jamelle if it was okay.
[00:03:51] And if you're not familiar with Jamelle, well, you're probably racist.
[00:03:57] That's the only reason you wouldn't know them.
[00:03:59] No, I mean, this Aaron Glaser thing happened.
[00:04:09] We're going to get the ratings back up.
[00:04:12] So maybe if we just, if enough people stop listening, we won't have to keep doing it.
[00:04:18] So hopefully we just keep being shitty at it.
[00:04:20] That's the goal, you know, and then we can just end it.
[00:04:22] It's like, you know, Neil Young said you do 20 podcasts and then you stop.
[00:04:34] I never listen to no fucking Neil Young.
[00:04:50] It's really got in favor of songs more about gold.
[00:05:11] I feel like people haven't said ducats since 1997.
[00:05:13] I would say I feel like ducats was around in college.
[00:05:21] It's because they said ducats in San Andreas.
[00:05:22] And that was like set in the early 90s.
[00:05:25] And I think that would be a very ducats have a comeback.
[00:05:27] That in Boston, people started saying Boston again.
[00:05:49] I guess like, you know, we should probably, like, it is like an interesting thing to talk
[00:05:56] But it would be kind of fucked up if like, well, it wouldn't be fucked up.
[00:05:57] I guess, you know, it's just, it probably even stings out to have like a woman that we
[00:06:08] Like, don't have a mic necessarily to defend myself.
[00:06:15] I told you, dude, we're doing this fucking Kumia Studio stuff.
[00:06:22] They bought Roger Ailes leg cam and they installed it in the Anthony Kumia Studio.
[00:06:29] I guess, what should we, I guess, describe, I mean, everybody knows what the fucking story
[00:06:43] If you do comedy in New York, you followed it.
[00:06:46] I mean, initially what happened for me is because I was enjoying like a peaceful day
[00:06:51] I had like no interest in, you know, hearing about it.
[00:06:56] And like, I like talked to Aaron maybe like two or three times.
[00:06:59] I don't, you know, particularly about him.
[00:07:03] But, but, yeah, like I think Sean McCarthy texted me and he was like, like, what do you think
[00:07:15] And he's like, God, apparently he raped somebody.
[00:07:18] But then someone else messaged me about it.
[00:07:21] And then a third person was like, Oh, this Aaron thing's crazy.
[00:07:33] You were totally unfazed when you heard.
[00:07:37] You know, I'm like, I can't believe Aaron would do that.
[00:07:40] I'm with the guy I've done two shows with.
[00:07:42] I mean, maybe he did, but like when I went to like get information, it was just like,
[00:07:50] And they're like, Oh, they're not saying, but you know, you're like, Oh, that's out of
[00:07:54] the, any of my friends are capable of rape.
[00:07:59] Well, he's not my friend is what I'm saying.
[00:08:01] If you told me like, there's this guy, Steve Johnson, who's a rapist, so it'd be like,
[00:08:09] What if like Adam or I, you heard that about us?
[00:08:19] Well, I mean, again, I would need to know the details.
[00:08:23] If somebody just said that you were a rapist, I would be like, well, what happened?
[00:08:26] And that's what happened with the Aaron thing.
[00:08:28] They're like, oh, he, you know, he raped, uh, he like raped some girl, maybe a girl or
[00:08:35] And I was like, well, like, what is it?
[00:08:36] And they're like, oh, you know, there's no real details.
[00:08:38] And I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to just go around saying some guys are rapist.
[00:08:43] And people are like, Oh, well, you see be released a statement.
[00:08:46] And I was like, that seems kind of weird that you see be would do that because they're a
[00:08:57] There's I think there was a fake statement and I think there was a real statement.
[00:09:03] All there is the source of our counselor or something.
[00:09:06] Well, I got into it with people and the source of all of this is a screenshot from like
[00:09:12] a women's only group, uh, like a women's psychomic group.
[00:09:16] It's a screenshot where the name's been cut off.
[00:09:18] So you can't see who posted it that just said like, Hey guys, um, you know, I'm just sharing
[00:09:23] this on behalf of like, uh, one of the victims or whatever, but Aaron Glaser has been banned
[00:09:29] And then in quotation marks within that, it says, um, Aaron has been banned from UCB for
[00:09:38] If you've been raped by Aaron, please send an email to Marissa at something at UCB, you
[00:09:46] And, uh, but no one can tell me like who wrote that, you know, what group it was posted in
[00:09:51] the book or what that quote, who's who they're quoting in those quotation marks.
[00:09:56] And so then somebody just reported on it today and then they attributed that quote to a staff
[00:10:03] They said that Marissa said that herself, that Aaron was like banned for rape.
[00:10:08] And you know, if she said that, it's an official capacity.
[00:10:10] If she's telling people to contact her at her work email, but then that same reporter
[00:10:14] contacted UCB and they were like, what's up?
[00:10:17] And UCB was like, God, we're, we're not going to comment on that.
[00:10:21] So that's our official policy is not to comment.
[00:10:23] So it's like the whole thing's obfuscated.
[00:10:27] But that doesn't mean, I mean, just because they're not commenting on it doesn't mean
[00:10:29] he's not banned and doesn't mean there's not a reason for it.
[00:10:32] I don't think they would be in the show.
[00:10:34] It doesn't mean it didn't rape, but it also.
[00:10:35] And the point of sharing it in that way is not to blackball someone or whatever.
[00:10:39] And that way is to keep women safe so they know and that they're informed that this is
[00:10:44] a person you cannot trust and you're not safe around.
[00:10:46] Well, here's, here's the problem with that is like, let's say UCB banned him because he
[00:10:52] was like maybe forward with a girl, which is still not appropriate.
[00:10:55] You know, like let's say he's in UCB classes and he says to a girl like, Hey, I would
[00:11:06] But even if they banned him for that and then they say, okay, Aaron, you're banned because,
[00:11:09] you know, XYZ and then people start going around saying, Oh yeah, Aaron's banned for
[00:11:14] rape. There's a huge fucking difference between a guy that's creepy and accusing someone of
[00:11:18] being like a serial fucking rapist felon.
[00:11:22] But do you think that they would ban someone for being quote unquote creepy?
[00:11:27] I mean, he's a report like he's like a performer there who is pretty respected and whatever.
[00:11:34] But why would they get rid of someone who is bringing them business?
[00:11:37] Because because you know what's like what's what looks much worse for UCB is if people
[00:11:41] start saying that, you know, oh, well, they're protecting this guy who's like, you know,
[00:11:45] sexually aggressive towards women, especially after like the couple of guys that that's
[00:11:50] already happened with in the improv community at large.
[00:11:55] What I'm upset about is that it was a fucking stand up, bro.
[00:12:06] I don't think we've had a rapist since that guy was going around all those colleges.
[00:12:10] I think there's definitely there's there's rape.
[00:12:16] Professor or Maratus William Jefferson Cosby.
[00:12:26] Jack, Louis jacked off in front of a girl one time or something.
[00:12:32] There's I have a friend who has a situation.
[00:12:34] I'm not going to name names because I don't think that's my place, but that's been out
[00:12:41] Is there any way to shift this on to the improv community?
[00:12:47] Is there any evidence that he took lessons or ever was in theater in high school?
[00:12:52] The point is there's it's not the fears that women have and we were just kind of talking
[00:12:57] about this about me like, you know, opening for a guy on the road or whatever.
[00:13:01] It is a completely different experience to have like a sexual aspect.
[00:13:07] It's fully immersed in it's woven into my career.
[00:13:13] You can't go on a road gig in the same way that you guys would go on a road gig.
[00:13:16] And that's that's the point of it is like we have to constantly think about not just
[00:13:21] being funny and whatever safety and that sucks.
[00:13:28] But back to like, you know, because there's such a huge spectrum of behavior when it comes
[00:13:33] to sexual interaction at the very end of that spectrum being rape is somebody being a rapist,
[00:13:43] You don't have anyone like directly accusing him, which again is fine.
[00:13:47] I understand like the need to protect women.
[00:13:54] I mean, that's literally what I just said.
[00:13:55] I have no problem with them obfuscating who the actual people are.
[00:14:00] But the accusations are if UCB wants to leak privately into a group, okay, that it's for
[00:14:05] rape, which hasn't been substantiated because UCB is not going to comment on it probably
[00:14:09] because it's a fucking huge legal fuck up on their end that one of their staffers, you
[00:14:14] know, I mean, if they, you know, don't have evidence that he actually rapes somebody in
[00:14:20] their in official capacity going around telling people outside their business that he's a
[00:14:28] Like if someone says he raped her, right, then isn't that enough to fucking at least
[00:14:34] I don't, but didn't you just say we can obfuscate?
[00:14:37] I mean, someone who doesn't be on wherever they want.
[00:14:41] I'm saying it's okay to obfuscate who the person is, but to not have any details in
[00:14:53] Yeah, but there's, you could see bad enough could be he was creepy towards somebody.
[00:14:58] Or, or it could be that he and if he did rape somebody, you know, I mean, not fine.
[00:15:04] But like if he was banned for a reason, like, you know, he was creepy, I don't like the
[00:15:10] wholesale inflation of creepy or rapey behavior up to like he is a rapist now because that's
[00:15:21] But I mean, I think it brings a conversation about where there's some behavior that, you
[00:15:25] know, creepy is not a good term that we're using to begin with because that's so all
[00:15:33] I'm just saying there needs to be a conversation because I think the fear is that some guys
[00:15:37] are going to get accused of something and that they thought was totally fine behavior.
[00:15:44] You don't want to be wrongly accused of anything and it's not necessarily.
[00:15:49] It's like, I don't want to say something that is racially insensitive.
[00:15:56] I think that's more so it needs to happen is a conversation of being like, no, that's
[00:16:02] And I get that you didn't know that that's not okay.
[00:16:05] And just kind of changing the culture around that.
[00:16:12] Well, and that's the problem is because there's probably, I mean, I've done it probably a
[00:16:16] billion times where I've said something, you know, it would be deemed yeah, creepy or whatever,
[00:16:21] maybe like sexually aggressive or, you know, I think everybody.
[00:16:24] Well, we're also in this weird fucked up, like we're all coworkers.
[00:16:34] Partying together or, you know, totally immersed in each other's like personal lives and like
[00:16:44] Like we're all working together for two percent of the people doing comedy, but the vast majority,
[00:16:49] the vast majority of the people doing stand up right now, they want to pretend like this
[00:16:54] Yeah, but to get it to be to a career, you have to be there.
[00:17:01] You have to, you know, work your way up.
[00:17:02] But I mean, there's a lot of people that do this as like a social thing after they get
[00:17:06] off work and the same people that might be sexually aggressive in a comedy setting, I
[00:17:10] guarantee you would not be doing that at their day job because there is a disconnect.
[00:17:15] So I mean, you know, you can call it a professional setting.
[00:17:17] But what do you mean about though, ultimately, like in this situation?
[00:17:20] Because I mean, I know it's fucked, it's fucked that it's like, I guess in theory, if these
[00:17:26] are false accusations or they're not extreme enough for like.
[00:17:30] It has, it has nothing to do with false accusations.
[00:17:32] And that's the thing I fucking can't stand that people are trying to put that in my mouth.
[00:17:36] If there's no accusation to deny, I can't fucking deny it.
[00:17:41] There's an anonymous screen cap that can't be attributed to anybody that says Aaron was
[00:17:52] So then they have a reason there's been an accusation and that's enough.
[00:17:55] And it's just been vulnerable to get people.
[00:17:59] Well, there's, what would they ban him for if there wasn't an accusation?
[00:18:03] You know, like somebody went to them and gave them information.
[00:18:06] They took that information and said we are not comfortable having this person at art
[00:18:12] So, so for sure, somebody said to UCB that he raped them for sure.
[00:18:21] Because he was actually like forward with somebody because again, he said something creepy.
[00:18:27] If it's between rape and saying to someone like, Hey, I want to fuck you.
[00:18:32] There's no way that he would be banned for saying I want to fuck you.
[00:18:38] Do you know that he'd like with that's the only reason you see the bands people is for
[00:18:45] I would say that it's I mean, maybe we don't know.
[00:18:47] Maybe there's not really that much of a difference.
[00:18:49] Like if he made people so uncomfortable that they could not comfortably perform at UCB,
[00:18:55] that UCB felt they had to get rid of this person.
[00:18:59] Even if it's not a crime that he could be digging in.
[00:19:02] If you're making people uncomfortable enough, I don't think well, then that's on those people
[00:19:10] Yeah, but if you if you say rape is bad, you'll get a hundred likes on Facebook.
[00:19:15] Well, I yeah, I don't agree with everyone.
[00:19:18] Yeah, but I mean, a lot of people are taking it into their own, you know, get like some
[00:19:30] I get bothered by that when people die.
[00:19:31] I get bothered in all kinds of situations when people make it about them.
[00:19:37] But we do need to like share feelings and have a dialogue about it.
[00:19:42] And unfortunately, social media is a lot of the way to do that, which sucks.
[00:19:47] I wish it could, you know, people could talk in person and that it didn't have that same
[00:19:54] What do you make of the whole, I should have gone to the cops thing?
[00:20:00] Like the UCB isn't again, I think I think that's what I think that's what is bothering
[00:20:07] Well, and because there's a thing we encourage that or something, I mean, I would also say
[00:20:11] So don't know that she also don't know that she whatever is rich.
[00:20:17] I'm fucking saying you don't know that she didn't go to the cops because nobody has any
[00:20:21] She very well could have gone to the cops.
[00:20:22] You don't know that because UCB won't say anything because nobody will say anything because
[00:20:27] Everybody commenting on this thing does not have any kind of firsthand or second hand
[00:20:33] The most the most the unfortunately the person with the most credibility or well, not credibility,
[00:20:38] but most direct access to the information right now is Aaron because nobody saying anything.
[00:20:46] I read which one the one where he's just not a leader.
[00:20:49] Yeah, there was a couple of the I mean, he has I probably as a lawyer at this point.
[00:20:55] Well, in just about the cap situation, I think it's easy to say like, Oh, of course, if there's
[00:20:59] a crime, you go to the cops, but it is a flawed system there.
[00:21:05] You're dealing with such a sensitive thing.
[00:21:09] You're going to like as a woman, a lot of times another man, not that this man is not,
[00:21:14] you know, respectful of whatever, but he doesn't.
[00:21:17] But I'm just saying a lot of the times it's a very uncomfortable situation.
[00:21:22] Another trauma to go through and it's not handled correctly.
[00:21:25] Like a lot of the time it is not handled correctly.
[00:21:30] And the only way to change that system is to kind of get something going socially.
[00:21:37] I'm just saying that, you know, the way you get something going socially though is you
[00:21:40] still encourage people to report it to the police.
[00:21:43] And then you call for actions to reform to the way it's handled within.
[00:21:46] I'm just saying a better punishment is throw the baby out with the bath water and say,
[00:21:50] Oh, well, the police don't handle it well.
[00:21:52] So we're just going to completely remove the police from the situation and just say,
[00:21:56] I don't think you should completely remove, but I think the system we're in now is flawed.
[00:22:01] But there's a lot of systems that are flawed and saying, fuck it all isn't like that's
[00:22:05] the mentality, which I don't think is real, by the way, of the people that are like,
[00:22:09] well, Bernie didn't get the nomination.
[00:22:11] So I'm going to vote for Trump, which I don't think anybody's actually doing that.
[00:22:16] It's the same kind of fucking mentality where, oh, well, you know, rape cases.
[00:22:20] And first of all, it's shitty to deal with the police with any crime.
[00:22:27] I mean, well, stop is a he's kind of like a false rape.
[00:22:31] Yeah, yeah, when it comes to my car, I tried.
[00:22:35] But also, dude, I don't think you're wrong.
[00:22:37] It's like, yes, you should go to the cops, but it's like, I wouldn't mock.
[00:22:42] That's the thing I'm not mocking people.
[00:22:44] And this is, I mean, the people that are yelling about this, like Che and Kurt, they're not
[00:22:50] They're yelling because they're again, there's no kind of was there's no victims to yell
[00:22:57] You're dealing entirely with third parties in this situation.
[00:22:59] He's yelling at the people that are outright saying, do not get the police involved, which
[00:23:07] But like, and those are the people he's arguing with, and it's totally valid to mock those
[00:23:13] I guess, but this is a thing where it's like, there is so many other people who are just
[00:23:17] like affected by these sorts of things who aren't saying don't go to the police and that
[00:23:22] they see that shit that could be like pretty hurt.
[00:23:27] It's the victim's choice for everything.
[00:23:29] Like, this is their situation and really none of us have any, you know, there's no reason
[00:23:37] If you got robbed and you were like, I don't give a shit who stole my fucking television.
[00:23:43] You still got robbed and you're going to deal with that emotionally in your way.
[00:23:48] So there's really it's up to the victim entirely.
[00:23:50] In my opinion, I'm not saying fuck the police, get them out of the situation all.
[00:23:57] If there's a crime, you should import it.
[00:23:59] And I think that is the thing that is part of what is turning so like that is so shitty
[00:24:04] It's like the tone of like all those posts, the Metzka, the Che thing is like they know
[00:24:12] They know better than the people encouraging those victims not to go to the fucking police
[00:24:16] because again, there is no discernible victim in this situation.
[00:24:21] What you have is again, a bunch of third parties commenting on it and people publicly
[00:24:27] defending this decision to not encourage them to go to the police.
[00:24:31] Whether that even fucking happened or not because nobody knows what happened internally
[00:24:36] And I again, I'm still flabbergasted that people trust UCB to hear their investigation
[00:24:42] as if their reputation isn't on the line.
[00:24:44] Like they can possibly not be thinking about how is this going to look for us?
[00:24:49] How are we not going to get sued the entire time they're going through one of those situations.
[00:24:54] And that's, you know, not only, like, not only unfair to the accused, but unfair to the
[00:25:00] Because then it ultimately comes down to what's the easiest way to make this go away.
[00:25:05] Not justice, you know, not making people safe.
[00:25:09] It's how do we make this situation go away?
[00:25:11] Because now it's blown up to this person.
[00:25:14] I mean, this is like what could have happened with Cosby in the 80s and 90s.
[00:25:19] Like people were talking about it and not saying anything.
[00:25:22] So when this first started happening, I was just kind of like, whoa, like he's getting
[00:25:28] I was a little bit kind of proud though.
[00:25:36] Taking it seriously, having women's backs and, you know, in that way, very cool.
[00:25:42] A lot of people are calling it a witch hunt.
[00:25:44] I don't think that's the right term for it at all because if you look at what witches
[00:25:49] were, they were not witches, clearly he did something that's not, if you don't want to
[00:25:54] be accused of rape, don't rape that kind of thing.
[00:25:56] It's not, you know, it's not like you took an innocent person and, you know, there was
[00:26:03] But I'm not saying, here's what I haven't seen.
[00:26:14] Because that's how the fun, that's how it works.
[00:26:16] No, I don't need it doesn't even need to be like, you know, you can.
[00:26:19] So that person has to carry around that reputation while they're having a trying to have a career
[00:26:26] I still, again, there's no official statement from UCB.
[00:26:32] So if you read an anonymous statement that said Aaron could be substantiated.
[00:26:37] I mean, anonymous to the extent that it's not like, you know, a fucking yik-yak thing.
[00:26:41] But see, that's the problem though with this whole situation is that it has to be made
[00:26:48] So I've started to afford a rapist due process.
[00:26:51] It has to, this, all this stuff has to come out, right?
[00:26:55] Well, I mean, and then the due process thing is tricky because you can talk about due
[00:26:59] process and, you know, six amendment rights in terms of like a legal case.
[00:27:05] But then culturally, the way we handle these accusations, I mean, I still believe in some
[00:27:10] kind of idea of due process on a cultural level because I think that, and then this is
[00:27:14] might just be my own paranoid thinking, but if you sort of erode the ideas of freedom
[00:27:19] of speech or due process on a cultural level in terms of things like, you know, banning
[00:27:24] somebody from Twitter because they got into an argument with somebody.
[00:27:27] Again, you know, it's a private service.
[00:27:28] They can ban whoever the fuck they want.
[00:27:30] But on like a, again, like a cultural level, you want to maintain these freedoms.
[00:27:36] You want to maintain due process as ideas we protect and respect because if you don't,
[00:27:43] then it'll be easier to pass legislation to erode those laws in the future.
[00:27:48] But what about those people that haven't been afforded due process?
[00:27:54] Well, the solution is still not to take away people's rights.
[00:27:57] It's the same thing with like, you know, oh, well, don't get the police involved because
[00:28:02] You know, they'll look at the inefficacy of the justice system.
[00:28:05] We should just not not deal with them at all.
[00:28:09] And you know, and it took, it took thousands of years as fucked up as the judge.
[00:28:13] The justice system is it took like thousands of years to get to this point to figure out
[00:28:17] a sort of a way where we can try to offer some semblance of justice where it's not fucked
[00:28:24] And you know, they try to circumvent like, you know, colleges got in trouble because
[00:28:29] they protected student athletes that were raping people.
[00:28:32] And then that's where like the bulk of like conversations about rape culture started.
[00:28:35] It was centered around like the campus rape epidemic.
[00:28:39] And also not just, but yeah, like rich kids, people, people with more privilege.
[00:28:47] But I mean, that's why what's happened with comedy too.
[00:28:49] Comics who have a bigger following who are more successful are definitely more protected
[00:28:57] Aaron Glaser is just a illiterate rich kid from Long Island.
[00:29:07] I blame UCB part of that because like UCB is such a fucking cult that it creates those
[00:29:12] power structures, those artificial power structures that sort of like these women that will feel
[00:29:17] coerced into fucking their improv teacher because they think he's important because he
[00:29:21] had a one line speaking role on how I met your mother or whatever.
[00:29:27] It's like if it weren't for UCB's like creepy, you know, keep it in the house, you know,
[00:29:34] I don't know enough to say that, but I agree with that.
[00:29:37] I don't think you know, you should not build up power structures to make someone, you know,
[00:29:42] where everyone is idolizing this person because they're not going to use that power responsibly
[00:29:50] So I don't know, man, I do feel like it's obviously very complicated, but I do think
[00:29:53] that it just needs to be like we have it's okay to me if it's like protect we take extra
[00:30:01] precautions with victims or accusers of, you know what I mean?
[00:30:07] Like I know it's fucked that like, I mean, we shouldn't erode due process anyway, but
[00:30:11] I also understand like there's almost over correction right now where maybe we're swinging
[00:30:16] a little too far and it's a little too.
[00:30:20] That's been happening happening on campuses for a while.
[00:30:22] And that's the problem is because campus has gotten trouble again because because they're
[00:30:27] businesses because they're businesses on campuses.
[00:30:31] A friend of mine got raped in college and she was afraid to come forward because she
[00:30:40] So she finally did and she found out there were like eight other girls on campus that
[00:30:44] And if you don't talk about it, that guy rape, that's why he's raped eight people because
[00:30:49] It's a small liberal arts school like 2,000 people.
[00:30:52] Everyone that fucks everyone knows whenever you hook up with anyone, you know, and no
[00:30:57] one else wanted to come forward and she was completely alone in it.
[00:31:00] She got in trouble for selling weed, you know, like her name was dragged through the mud and
[00:31:04] she, I think she ultimately transferred schools.
[00:31:06] So campuses were getting in trouble for not doing enough about sexual assault and the
[00:31:12] And now they've set up all of these extra judicial tribunals to handle sexual assault
[00:31:17] cases instead of creating an effective pipeline to the police who should be handling those
[00:31:24] And now how that's turned out and there's a story about, uh, there's like a girl, I forget
[00:31:28] which school, but she was like a fat girl that had sex with this guy.
[00:31:35] That's a fat girl that had sex with this guy and his friends made fun of him for having
[00:31:39] So he reported her for rape and because they had already set a precedent of like, well,
[00:31:43] once you're accused of rape, you're removed from campus and you have no contact order.
[00:31:47] So in a case that is to anybody with any degree of fucking common sense whatsoever looks
[00:31:55] They say, oh, I'm sorry, but we already set up all this shit.
[00:32:00] We had to create extra judicial court systems that don't mean anything.
[00:32:05] Now this girl's been expelled from the school for rape because some guy's friends made fun
[00:32:11] And that's ultimately who fucking loses out in these situations.
[00:32:17] That's not a run of the mill situation.
[00:32:19] It will be it fucking will be if you, if you, and here's a thing like that's to protect
[00:32:26] Well, then what's your point in saying that that we shouldn't have all of these?
[00:32:29] No, it's the way to fix it is you shouldn't create new systems that are based on the idea
[00:32:34] that due process shouldn't exist, which is exactly what colleges did.
[00:32:38] What the colleges should have done is when the heat came down on them for not effectively
[00:32:42] handling sexual assault on campus is creating a very effective student resource pipeline
[00:32:48] to the justice system that provides advocacy for victims that gets in contact with the
[00:32:53] fucking DA immediately and works with police officers to bring justice to the situation
[00:33:00] through the court systems we already have set up.
[00:33:02] They're based on the constitution, they're based on protecting people's rights that are,
[00:33:06] you know, that ultimately, yes, are very fucked up.
[00:33:09] They work a lot better than some, you know, group of fucking RAs that, you know, took
[00:33:16] I think absolutely you're right in that like we have to make the way that like going to
[00:33:20] the actual police is like not a traumatizing, a new traumatizing experience.
[00:33:26] And I don't know how long that fucking takes.
[00:33:29] I mean, you know, we've also been talking about how the justice system has to be better
[00:33:33] for like black people in the way, you know what I mean?
[00:33:38] And I think, I mean, I think there's riots going on right now in Milwaukee.
[00:33:44] I mean, but all I know in these situations is that like I just, I don't know, man, we
[00:33:50] you just have to protect people, you have to protect women from like predators in these
[00:34:00] If you're way of protecting women is by setting a precedent for taking people's rights away
[00:34:07] Guess whose rights are being taken away?
[00:34:09] Not fucking white guys, because I tell you what, rape is already illegal.
[00:34:12] Everyone's fucking invoke Brock Turner's name in this case.
[00:34:14] They say, oh, you should go to the police.
[00:34:18] He's a fucking straight white guy and he got away with it.
[00:34:23] Guess who gets fucked over the black guy that didn't actually do it.
[00:34:27] That they say, ah, well, it's just easier to fucking get rid of this guy or the women
[00:34:32] or, you know, any, any fucking minority group that's historically been, you know, oppressed
[00:34:36] or fucked over because that's who these systems of power hurt.
[00:34:39] But in this case, what do you do when it's like if someone accuses somebody, says this
[00:34:46] guy raped me, did something and then because it's a business or whatever, no official word
[00:34:54] You just like, let this guy keep hanging out.
[00:34:56] I mean, you inform everyone so they know.
[00:34:58] And this does not happen again with the same person or other people or guys.
[00:35:03] I mean, the only way that I know of to, you know, if there's a guy who has fucking repeat
[00:35:09] tendencies, is to scare the shit out of him for not doing that.
[00:35:13] And if he's scared that, oh, my Facebook wall is going to fucking blow up because everybody's
[00:35:20] I don't care what deters you from doing it as long as he's determined.
[00:35:23] That's your right to do on a personal level, that's fine, I don't give a shit.
[00:35:27] Even though that is in technically defamation.
[00:35:32] And then that's the problem that UCB faces now is if that wasn't official state from them,
[00:35:38] they said he's a rapist, they're in a lot of fucking trouble because if it can't be
[00:35:42] substantiated or then it's defamation, you know, and they're going to fucking lose a
[00:35:50] That's why it's the easiest way to handle those situations is just to privately tell
[00:35:53] Aaron, like, look, thank you for the time, you know, you spend here or whatever, but
[00:35:58] something came up and you can't fucking be here anymore.
[00:36:01] We've had a lot of complaints about you.
[00:36:03] And that's that's that maybe is what happened, but then everyone else finds out about it.
[00:36:09] Some women want to tell other women to like stay away from it.
[00:36:13] And then I have to talk about it because there's women who have had the same fucked up sexual
[00:36:19] experience with the same comic, you know, that's totally fine.
[00:36:28] And, and you know, say, okay, this guy is, you know, creepy or this guy's a predator,
[00:36:33] whatever, UCB made a decision to handle this in some sort of investigative capacity and
[00:36:39] treat themselves like a governing body.
[00:36:45] And if you want that responsibility, you better be prepared for the full brunt of it, which
[00:36:52] I think as much as like the way these cases have been fucked up on campus, the way they
[00:36:56] handle it, which, you know, again, like you said, still not effective.
[00:36:59] Did you see that hunting ground documentary?
[00:37:03] Well, like the big one, it's James Winston.
[00:37:11] And why it's so fucked up is because as a student athlete, they're fucking exploiting
[00:37:19] They're making so much money that he's a fucking dime on.
[00:37:23] So how do their slaves rape to somebody?
[00:37:27] And they're like, oh, well, we're just going to try and play it safe here.
[00:37:37] Are there other comics that you know of that multiple girls have said have done inappropriate
[00:37:41] things and are not being exposed in the way that Eric Glazier is being exposed right
[00:37:51] I guess it's been dealt with differently in the sense that those women haven't, for
[00:37:59] whatever reason, those guys, well, that's why I was saying those people with more exposure.
[00:38:05] So if they're in UCB, then UCB would be able to handle this with the right and this is
[00:38:11] So I'm not going to name names or anything like that because it's not.
[00:38:15] But we've discussed, you know, there was the Lady Comics group, that kind of thing.
[00:38:19] And it wasn't, it's not like a gossipy thing like, oh, yeah, take this guy down.
[00:38:25] It's literally just like this happened to me with this guy.
[00:38:30] And it's difficult for people because you don't want to see that in a friend that you
[00:38:33] have or a person you like working with or especially when they're at a level of success
[00:38:37] where you're like, you know, admiring them or whatever.
[00:38:42] Because it's about keeping people safe.
[00:38:45] I'll be honest because I think I know one case that you might be referring to.
[00:38:48] And I think a lot of it is like, you know, to, we have to be honest, that sex exists
[00:38:57] The idea that affirmative consent is like something that's cooked up.
[00:39:02] That's cooked up by fucking nerds who fuck like dolphins.
[00:39:04] Like, especially if you are in like a non-commative relationship, consent is pretty clear, I think.
[00:39:16] If you're looking at someone for the first time, for sure.
[00:39:20] Nobody, I mean, even if you are in a relationship, you shouldn't be doing that.
[00:39:23] Have you ever in your life, like, hooked up with somebody and before you had sex with
[00:39:28] them, they said, do you consent to this?
[00:39:34] Yeah, there's like different stuff like that.
[00:39:43] Being of this lady comics group, have they said if we're cute, any of us?
[00:39:49] Yeah, they actually mentioned that neither of you.
[00:40:00] No, everyone's in level staff, for sure.
[00:40:19] I don't know, I just heard it somewhere.
[00:40:24] On some other shit, I heard that the comedian Adam Friedland is a very giving lover.
[00:40:35] Anyway, guys, did we do enough talk about it?
[00:40:46] And you know what, a lot of people want to relate personal stories to it.
[00:40:49] Pretty much everyone I argued with this, about like, with this, at some point, was like,
[00:40:54] And it's like, all right, well, then I'm going to have to shut the conversation down immediately.
[00:40:59] Well, that's another point, though, is that women don't rape.
[00:41:09] In terms of murder and rape, it's statistical-
[00:41:12] They've definitely been female rape as a man, female murder.
[00:41:19] Some guy speaking is less than one person.
[00:41:28] You're being very rude to male rape victims right now.
[00:41:31] I have to come to the defense of male rape victims.
[00:41:33] Well, males get raped by other men, but they're not getting raped by women.
[00:41:44] I've absolutely had a thing like that happen where I was really fucking drunk and someone
[00:41:48] like insisted on it and like, I was like, no, I don't want to fuck you.
[00:41:55] Which if I was a woman, they would probably be in fucking jail if I told them-
[00:42:00] I mean, it would be a big fucking sting.
[00:42:10] And that's the thing is because some fucking guy like-
[00:42:14] Well, like some guy like two days ago posted something that was like, I just want to let
[00:42:18] everybody know there was a woman in the comedy community who had made advances at me before
[00:42:23] and I told her I wasn't interested and then one night I got drunk and somehow she like
[00:42:27] just talked her way into coming back to my place and I told her repeatedly, I didn't
[00:42:32] And then people are like, oh my God, I can't believe this happened to you.
[00:42:36] And then somebody screen-capped it and then we were all making fun of him.
[00:42:40] Me and my friends were like, this is the biggest faggot in me.
[00:42:48] Like, I don't want to get to a place where men are acting like that.
[00:42:52] I don't absolutely do not know if I can-
[00:42:54] Well, that's why there's probably why there's rapids because they can't-
[00:42:59] And then he fucking woman to jail for doing that ever, ever.
[00:43:05] But men need to be able to express the same things that women are expressing.
[00:43:14] Finally, a chance for me to be a victim.
[00:43:17] He's posting that for fucking Brownie points.
[00:43:34] Maybe someone else would be traumatized by it.
[00:43:36] Like, every situation is very different.
[00:43:42] But that's why masculinity has gotten to where it has at this point.
[00:43:47] I fucking make fun of men who claim they've been raped by women.
[00:43:52] It's working very well for you in particular.
[00:43:58] But the fact of the matter remains to me is that overwhelmingly, men rape and men murder
[00:44:08] Because it's- I'm not saying- well, the second half of that statement is that I in the rape
[00:44:15] conversation feel like it's more appropriate for me as a man to just listen more than-
[00:44:27] Because the gates being a dialogue at any point.
[00:44:30] Yeah, but it's really not hap- like it's not- it applies to one gender way more than
[00:44:38] You can't look at this like Aaron thing and not see that things have- I mean, you might
[00:44:44] But let's say ten years ago, someone had said like, you know, like Aaron raped me.
[00:44:59] Well, that's like- it's because Mark's the guy now saying that so-
[00:45:05] Yeah, but people wouldn't fucking care.
[00:45:08] So if you look at this- I mean, it was-
[00:45:11] I mean, I guess it still is to an extent, but you honestly cannot say that people don't
[00:45:17] So as the next step is like, it happening less and people being like aware of what they're
[00:45:22] doing and controlling whatever weird fucked up urges they have because that's what you
[00:45:28] have to do as a human being, especially when you're in a community where everyone's-
[00:45:34] Here's- here's how that actually happens.
[00:45:36] Here's how it does happen less because I guarantee you a shit- shit ton of like instances of
[00:45:43] sexual predation or, you know, guys being creepier or whatever.
[00:45:47] The guy doesn't think for a second he's actually being a predator.
[00:45:50] And when you go in your lady groups and be like, oh, this guy was really fucking forward.
[00:46:03] Which is now no longer existing, by the way.
[00:46:13] Look, it's never like followed by something good.
[00:46:16] Why the canceling the secret lady you've-
[00:46:17] Well, shit was getting out, people were screen chatting stuff and sharing it.
[00:46:43] You actually have to have like a conversation.
[00:46:51] You can't just like assume that, you know, like, oh, we're going to shame this guy out
[00:46:55] If his intention, if he like, honestly, there's like plenty of guys that think it's like totally
[00:47:00] fine because- and you won't disagree with this, I'm sure that they're raised that way.
[00:47:05] That's like the culture you grew up in, you know, where it's okay to be, you know, sexually
[00:47:10] aggressive with a woman to a certain extent.
[00:47:13] And if they don't know that, like, the solution isn't to talk about a private lady.
[00:47:20] I think that everybody knows what's inappropriate.
[00:47:24] And up until very recently, it seems like people were getting away with it.
[00:47:28] And I'm not even saying like, oh, that's okay.
[00:47:30] Because whatever anyone can get away with, they're probably going to do.
[00:47:35] And I think everyone kind of has a responsibility to hold the people they know and themselves
[00:47:40] I wouldn't rape somebody if I could get away with it.
[00:47:43] It's not downloading movies, you know, which I don't think-
[00:47:52] I don't mean they can get away with it.
[00:47:57] I got a blue streak on DVD going right now.
[00:48:02] We should talk about Blue Street for a second.
[00:48:05] Probably the best police movie at all time.
[00:48:07] My favorite part about Blue Street is the premise is Owen Wilson is somehow a detective
[00:48:14] in the LAPD and he's just never interacted with a black person.
[00:48:18] And he's just like, wow, did you hear the way he said, believe that?
[00:48:24] He's saying, he's saying like, jive turkey and stuff.
[00:48:30] He's got a really good Jay-Z track that plays over the credits too.
[00:48:35] In the truck driving job, like a bunch of guys say, oh, you got to use like a bonded
[00:48:39] lot or use a bonded lot when I park the truck at night.
[00:48:42] And I don't know, I never knew what the fuck anyone was talking about because I've never
[00:48:50] And I was doing a job with this guy, Jack or whatever.
[00:48:52] And I told Phil, I'm like, he's saying I got to use a bonded lot.
[00:48:55] And it feels like, oh yeah, I just say that to people.
[00:48:59] He's like, yeah, it doesn't mean anything.
[00:49:02] But all these producers use that term, I guess.
[00:49:15] He steals a diamond and he stashes it in this abandoned building.
[00:49:20] And then he goes to prison for 10 years for stealing the diamond which they never recover
[00:49:25] And then he gets out and he goes back to get the diamond and now it's like the new police
[00:49:30] So to get his diamond, he has to fucking lie his way into being a detective with the police
[00:49:39] You know, he's gone to jail, that's all.
[00:49:42] Because it's because it's like it looks exactly like the guy who just got out of prison for
[00:49:51] The only way that movie could win better is if he had like pretended to be Chananae to
[00:49:58] The midget was just a shoot him on his knees.
[00:50:01] Yeah, he had to steal the diamond to get to propose to Gina.
[00:50:14] So I guess we didn't have any kind of conclusion.
[00:50:24] I'm going to say we, this is the court of come town and the judges now in a session that's
[00:50:39] So that makes, I mean, I'm looking to a comedian.
[00:50:46] So I guess you got to take the UCB's finding because that's actually the court of record.
[00:50:56] And then you got to, there's a panel actually.
[00:51:00] So what happens is you need to uncover the UCB documents and there's a panel of three
[00:51:08] You got Matt Besser, Amy Poehler, Ian Roberts.
[00:51:12] I just hope the Russians hack UCB's emails.
[00:51:24] Say what you want to understand why we have to dislike Russia when there's so much better
[00:51:28] I think there's really bad television show about hackers right now called Mr. Robot.
[00:51:37] It's supposed to be like the 4chan show and it's like fuck, like even like calling it
[00:51:43] calling it the evil corporation, the bad guys evil corporation is like supposed to be like
[00:51:47] yeah, it's so on the nose that it's ironic or whatever.
[00:51:51] I think it's just bad writing and the best shot.
[00:51:57] I got her internet shut off for pirating that show.
[00:52:02] That fucking like fuck the system shows.
[00:52:05] She got like like, I don't know, NPAA notices or some shit and they throttle her internet
[00:52:14] She's like downloading shit off pirate bay and then like seeding it for three weeks.
[00:52:22] Well, I guess we didn't really do anything funny this one.
[00:52:34] Yeah, we're gonna lose like well, hold on.
[00:52:44] Yeah, we should we do that up top should we just like started up top star star what up
[00:52:50] Before we started talking about before we started talking about all this really important
[00:52:56] I want to thank that guy the the guy you're making fun of.
[00:53:02] No, he came all the way from his where he lives with his sister to our show.
[00:53:17] Thank you for all the listeners of the show that came to to watch it.
[00:53:21] We're gonna say the end word next week.
[00:53:25] We promise you do usually do one and more in an episode.
[00:53:29] You want to do you want to do you want to do?
[00:53:30] No, but you see I'm gonna pass on that.
[00:53:37] Aaron Glaser is sitting right and the only way to send him to jail is if you call him
[00:53:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:53:51] And if you don't say it, and if you don't say it, not only does he go free, he rapes
[00:54:05] It's really everything that I fear and who would never have it.
[00:54:14] You want to send him to jail if you want to make women safe.
[00:54:20] Melissa hates the safety of women guys.
[00:54:27] I'm glad that it wasn't just me yelling.
[00:54:31] And my show's Friday's Bitch's Brill Friday's a Hallierd's.
[00:54:40] Just my Instagram is always at Stavi Baby.
[00:54:45] And I don't know, do we have anything else to plug for us?
[00:54:52] We're going to announce the new date for the next Funny Moms.
[00:54:55] Which is, should we just call it a come time, but Nick doesn't want to?
[00:54:59] I don't want to like fucking steam roll over.
[00:55:03] Adam's host, honestly, the best show in fucking Brooklyn that anyone.
[00:55:11] Because it's like, I thought it was funny.
[00:55:19] I get very stressed out with naming things.
[00:55:23] The funniest thing for any show to commit to things.
[00:55:26] The funniest thing for any show I saw ever, there was a show here that was just called
[00:55:36] Yeah, so me and Ben had that show called Bombing.
[00:55:49] First week of September, we'll have another Funny Moms slash comtown, whatever you want
[00:55:55] And yeah, thank you for you actually did come.
[00:56:49] What do you think you mean for the kids?